J Michael Waller Interview 3

Viewers are encouraged to watch Part 1 and Part 2 of Brian Gerrish’s interview with J. Michael Waller, former CIA operative and counterintelligence expert, for an understanding of his professional background and his excellent book Big Intel: How the CIA and FBI Went from Cold War Heroes to Deep State Villains before continuing.


In Part 3, J. Michael Waller gives his professional thoughts on the recent assassination attempt on Trump and the performance of the US Secret Service on that tragic day. Waller discusses the weaknesses in planning for security risks and in the execution of security during the event itself.

His commentary also covers the demise of ousted Secret Service director Kimberly Cheatle, claims that security warnings by agents were ignored, and the role of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) training in undermining the ability of both the Secret Service and FBI to perform their key security and protection roles.

Against the background of widespread protest and violence on the streets of the UK, the interview includes a thought-provoking discussion on the US Capitol riots of 6 January 2021, an event which Waller attended as one of thousands of peaceful and law-abiding American citizens. His personal observations, coupled with his former experience in the CIA and as a counter-intelligence expert, led him to write a formal article about the day entitled Covert Cadre: What I saw leading up to the US Capitol attack

During this large peaceful protest gone bad, Waller observed four separate cells or units: plainclothes militants, agents provocateurs, fake Trump protestors, and disciplined uniformed attackers. Please join us in this fascinating and important conversation.